Comments on: The Democratic Deficit in Europe — Another View http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/ Dogtown Meditations Sun, 29 Jan 2012 02:16:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: William Timberman http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/comment-page-1/#comment-1602 William Timberman Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:26:26 +0000 http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/?p=2531#comment-1602 Is this a leading question? Is this a leading question?

]]> By: Xerographica http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/comment-page-1/#comment-1580 Xerographica Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:39:35 +0000 http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/?p=2531#comment-1580 Do you agree or disagree with the premise of the story of the blind men and the elephant? Do you agree or disagree with the premise of the story of the blind men and the elephant?

]]> By: David Kaib http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/comment-page-1/#comment-1554 David Kaib Tue, 22 Nov 2011 02:23:50 +0000 http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/?p=2531#comment-1554 I doubt they will talk honestly with us, My hope is that we (writ large) will talk a bit more honestly with ourselves. I think you're right that we are moving in that direction, but there is much more progress to be made. And I agree that the elites are considerably more vulnerable than we often realize. I doubt they will talk honestly with us, My hope is that we (writ large) will talk a bit more honestly with ourselves. I think you’re right that we are moving in that direction, but there is much more progress to be made. And I agree that the elites are considerably more vulnerable than we often realize.

]]> By: William Timberman http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/comment-page-1/#comment-1552 William Timberman Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:07:28 +0000 http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/?p=2531#comment-1552 Well, we’ve got the elites’ attention, certainly. Now let’s see if they decide to talk honestly to us, and make us a deal we can live with, or sit behind their police state defenses and send Newt Gingrich out to vilify us. I suspect that the latter, as always, will be their first choice. In any case, it’s going to be a long struggle. The only good news so far is that an increasing number of people are seeing what it will cost us to let the status quo continue. It’s no secret that the elites have a tactical advantage. What’s less well understood is that strategically they’ll always be vulnerable. If enough people grasp what’s at stake, all the pepper spray, tasers and clubs in the world won’t be able to keep us out of what the bankers, bond marketeers, general-purpose technocrats and political <em>machers</em> now believe is theirs to dispose of as they will. Then the real fun will begin. Well, we’ve got the elites’ attention, certainly. Now let’s see if they decide to talk honestly to us, and make us a deal we can live with, or sit behind their police state defenses and send Newt Gingrich out to vilify us. I suspect that the latter, as always, will be their first choice. In any case, it’s going to be a long struggle.

The only good news so far is that an increasing number of people are seeing what it will cost us to let the status quo continue. It’s no secret that the elites have a tactical advantage. What’s less well understood is that strategically they’ll always be vulnerable. If enough people grasp what’s at stake, all the pepper spray, tasers and clubs in the world won’t be able to keep us out of what the bankers, bond marketeers, general-purpose technocrats and political machers now believe is theirs to dispose of as they will. Then the real fun will begin.

]]> By: David Kaib http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/2011/11/09/the-democratic-deficit-in-europe-another-view/comment-page-1/#comment-1549 David Kaib Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:11:53 +0000 http://dogtownessays.com/wordpress/?p=2531#comment-1549 A good deal of foolishness can be avoided by not confusing the rhetoric of legitimation for a description of reality. But it is striking how quickly elites shift to all but admitting that democracy (If it is allowed to exist in any form) is designed simply to ratify financial elites decisions. A good deal of foolishness can be avoided by not confusing the rhetoric of legitimation for a description of reality. But it is striking how quickly elites shift to all but admitting that democracy (If it is allowed to exist in any form) is designed simply to ratify financial elites decisions.

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